Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 15:48
Thank you. That’s awesome.
Adi Klevit: 15:49
The best people that I’ve ever met were through my podcast. So there you go.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 15:53
Amen. Yeah. So start off with maybe we’ll go podcast first, some of your favorite podcasts, then we’ll go to books. What are some of your favorite podcasts you’d recommend InspiredInsider? I’ll take it.
Adi Klevit: 16:07
Okay, good. Just like ChatGPT, you’re a wonderful. It’s like your podcast is the best. No, I like I’m all into AI now. I’m part of the AI leadership collective with.
Geoff Woods, so I like his podcast. I would recommend that one. I just came back from a collective meeting in Austin. It was fantastic. So big shout out to Geoff and his team.
That was very good. And you know, I listened to different podcasts. Different Build to Sell is very good, you know. Different.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 16:42
That’s a great one.
Adi Klevit: 16:43
Yeah. So you know, I mean I mean honestly yours and John’s are really good podcasts. So I, I have my podcast up and whatever like different try different business podcasts. Yeah.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 16:56
Love it. What about books some of your favorite books.
Adi Klevit: 16:59
Okay. So I just read this book. It’s called Power Questions. It’s by Jerold Panas. I really like his books.
He has a great books about selling and fundraising and but this is power questions. It’s really about asking the right questions in order to get the right answers. Right, or to open doors or to understand. And I think that nowadays asking questions is very important because that’s how you can work with AI, the most successful. You have to ask the right questions.
So obviously you can ask the AI to ask you the right questions, but you also need to be able to ask the right questions to get the right answers. and this is a very simple book to read. It has a lot of examples in it, and it’s actually fascinating. So that’s that’s what.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 17:43
I love that, you know, I remember I love books that have questions. Right. There’s a book of Beautiful Questions by Warren Berger. There’s like so many ones. I always thanks for that reminder.
I have to go into Amazon, just type in like questions and see what’s in the title and see what other books are out there.
Adi Klevit: 18:06
Yeah. And it has like, you know, it’s very short chapters and each chapter is basically has has a question and how you use it. So suggestions on how to use this question and it just keeps the conversation going. It keeps the conversation going. It it really also creates the right the right questions for the right people.
And especially now with AI you can research about the people, what is important to them, etc. and then use the right question.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 18:32
Any other favorite books.
Adi Klevit: 18:34
I have a lot of favorite books, but that’s the one that comes to mind. I mean, I have a whole library here. We can go over it, but I think this is this is what was top of mind right now.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 18:43
Cool. Apps and software. Some of your favorite apps and software?
Adi Klevit: 18:47
Yeah. So I’m into efficiency and consolidating apps. That’s my thing. So I love Clickup. We live in Clickup, you know, we work.
Everything works all. All of our internal company works, internal works. And the company is in Clickup. So I use the app. We of course use Slack as well.
So those two apps are great. Those are the ones that I would say we use it and we use SweetProcess to document our internal processes, just like you, Jeremy. And of course we also use it with our clients along other apps. So those are the three apps that I use the most. I try to figure out how we can use everything in those three apps, as opposed to then expand to others because it just becomes just too much.
So I’m into consolidating apps and not expanding on, although I have a lot of apps on my phone. And of course, you know, I appreciate apps that makes life easier. And you know, the workout app, you know, this app, that app. But yeah.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 19:52
Yeah, I mean, I find that a lot of these companies are incorporating AI into their tools. So like I’m like, please incorporate in a tool so I don’t have to go to a separate app to do this. Right.
Adi Klevit: 20:03
So somebody told me like on, on on an app where you can actually push I think it was monologue. So I’m going to try it. And in terms of you can push like you can actually have a voice message, like you can actually dictate and it will push it to the different apps, although each one of them has it, but I think it makes it for some reason.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 20:22
It automatically pushes it to the different apps.
Adi Klevit: 20:24
Yeah, apparently it makes it easier because of course my ChatGPT is like the conversation. I mean, I know, Robert, you were talking about grok and how you integrate it with your life. So we all have those. I mean, I’m sure.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 20:35
Yeah. I mean, I’ve used I’ve been using Wispr Flow a lot. Oh, Wispr Flow. Yeah.
Adi Klevit: 20:38
So what do you think about that?
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 20:42
It was glitchy a couple weeks ago. Now it’s been good. Right. But I mean, because I, you know, obviously can speak, you know, so much faster than I can type. So I’ve been getting in the habit of just doing it everywhere.
So I dictate everything into the email. And so.
Adi Klevit: 21:00
Wispr Flow basically like then.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 21:02
It’s a desktop app. You just click on it, you talk into it and wherever your cursor is, it will fill it in wherever your cursor is on your computer.
Adi Klevit: 21:10
So I’ll try it out.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 21:11
Or, you know, obviously if you’re I’m using ChatGPT. I just use the voice recording function. But if I’m.
Adi Klevit: 21:17
Apparently.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 21:18
If I want to dictate an email or something like that really quickly, then I’ll just do it with Wispr Flow.
Adi Klevit: 21:25
Because what I’ve been doing is going to loom again. I mean, you know, I’m saying consolidating apps and then I’m naming all my apps, but loom, for instance, because I want to. It’s very important. Like what Robert mentioned, he mentioned Marco Polo. But it’s very important that for me that we are a remote team, that you actually hear the voice as well.
It’s not just dictating. It’s not like writing. You have to have those conversations. So I use loom a lot in terms of I record something. So if I want to explain something, I find it easier, just like you would explain something to somebody that next to you I will explain it using a loom video.
So definitely use that as well.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 22:02
Yeah, I love it. Adi, always a pleasure. Thanks. Of course. Stay if you want.
If you got a hop. I totally get it. Zeke. Great to see you. First of all, it’s been a while.
Great people, great resources. Let’s start with what you do and in your website so people can check it out. And if you don’t know Robert and Zeke, you know you guys should know each other too. So talk about what you do.
Zeke Camusio: 22:26
Of course. Yeah. I’m the Founder and CEO of Data Speaks. It’s an analytics platform for marketing teams to help them understand which ads are driving sales and conversions so they can invest in the right channels and campaigns.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 22:41
Cool. And what’s the what’s the URL data speaks? Awesome. So let’s start off with books. What are some of your favorite books?
Zeke Camusio: 22:53
Yeah. So these days most of what I read about is machine learning, AI, statistics, analytics, essentially working with data, working with code, extracting, extracting insights from from data. The other type of book that I read is essentially what you guys were talking about before books about mental models, frameworks. I like tools that can apply in multiple different situations. So whether it is what questions to write or what frameworks to use or, you know, different kind of metaphors and mental models that can help us, you know, make the right decisions.
That’s the kind of stuff I’m usually really interested in philosophy and, you know, just kind of like how the mind works.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 23:47
I’m wondering, are there any favorite books on the mental models? I know it’s interesting. Before you came in, Ethan King came on. I don’t know, Robert. If you know Ethan, he’s in EO Atlanta.
So good to see you, by the way. And he was talking about Robert Greene’s books, and he loves Robert Greene’s books from like, Mental Models. And I know my friend, one of my friends, Michael Simmons, has like a group where he basically talks about mental models. And it’s like, I think he’s got a paid subscription newsletter where they kind of consolidate different mental models and share the different mental models with people, right? Because it’s just accelerates.
It just makes things faster and easier. I don’t know if any stick out on that front that you like. Zeke from a mental models framework. Frameworks.
Zeke Camusio: 24:35
There’s one that I just read probably a year ago called The Great Mental Models General Thinking Concepts by let me see Shane Parrish.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 24:47
Oh yeah I’ve heard of that. Yeah.
Zeke Camusio: 24:49
Okay. Yeah. And there’s that’s that’s one of many. And what I, what I found is.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 24:54
I see the great mental models. There’s a box set.
Zeke Camusio: 24:58
Oh okay.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 24:58
Yeah yeah.
Zeke Camusio: 25:00
Yeah I find, I find that kind of stuff really, you know, really interesting because it applies to so many different situations.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 25:10
Love it. Podcasts. What are some of your favorite podcasts.
Zeke Camusio: 25:14
Yeah. So I actually. Don’t listen to don’t follow podcasts. So I watch individual episodes.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 25:20
So some of your favorites.
Zeke Camusio: 25:22
Lenny Lenny’s Latest podcast for startups is awesome, I love that. But what I usually do is I just go to YouTube and I just search for whatever I want to learn at any given time. Some are short videos, some are longer videos and are podcasts. So whatever content I can find, that’s usually how I come across podcasts.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 25:43
Yeah. Are there any favorite guests or people that you’ve been searching for? You’ve you’ve stumbled across on these topics?
Zeke Camusio: 25:50
It’s very. Very related to whatever is relevant at any given time. So lately I there was one about the product market fit framework that I found really interesting. There was another one about founder led sales for for like early day startups that I also found really interesting. It’s essentially what is the challenge that I’m facing at any given time. Who has succeeded at that?
What can I learn from them?
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 26:21
Yeah, I’m actually as you’re talking, I pulled up the Lenny’s Newsletter and Lenny’s Podcast, and I’m looking at he had been $46 billion of hard truths from Ben Horowitz. I’m sure that’s an interesting episode. I’ll have to check that one out.
Zeke Camusio: 26:36
Yeah.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 26:37
What about apps and software? Some of your favorite apps and software could be on your phone. Your computer?
Zeke Camusio: 26:42
Yeah, well. Some of the ones we’re probably using. All of us. Right? So ChatGPT, I use that daily, I use cloth, they have a max subscription, I use it for live coding and, you know, just creating all sorts of stuff. Documents.
I use Notion, that’s where all my content lives, you know, like company guidelines, branding and that kind of stuff. You were mentioning Wispr Flow. I use that daily. Those are kind of the main ones, you know, and I found that the, the way I think about AI is I want to have kind of a central hub that can then connect to all my tools, all my. So, you know, it connects to Zapier.
And, you know, I have a bunch of NCP servers that, you know, send emails, write drafts. So it’s the one tool that connects to everything and also has access to all my data. So it has the relevant information to, you know, go and see what the last conversation I had with someone was based on that and how I like to reply to to content, you know, like I, you know, it writes a draft for me and then shows me what’s going on. And, you know, I just. Approve it or whatever.
Right. So like I usually use it one of two different ways. One is I use Wispr Flow to just brain dump whatever’s on my mind, you know, do this, do this to this, or I have a trigger set with Nan where, you know, if this happens, then execute this, you know. So. But it’s all, you know, all the tools that we used to use, you know, three, five years ago with an AI layer on top of that that executes and orchestrates all that, all those processes.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 28:35
Are there any other tools you’re using from like a vibe coding perspective? I know you’re big in AI and software. What else do you use with that?
Zeke Camusio: 28:46
Yeah, so I use I think it’s more about the process for me. So I first I want to know what am I trying to build and then what is the the what are the different steps in the process. So first I want a wireframe. Then I want the wireframe to be an actual design. Then I want it to be functionality.
So I just take it one step at a time. I mostly use cloud and cloud code Wispr Flow to get, you know, as you said, we speak way faster than we type, so I don’t want to waste time typing and then it just iterate. You know, just do this, do this, do this, and I then I have a team that actually takes that and, you know, turns it into production ready code. Right. Because it’s like I just want to prototype quickly.
I just want to show demos and yeah, just for example, did a demo for Nike and I just needed everything customized with, you know, Nike logo. And, you know, I just I was able to do that in, in minutes, you know, so that kind of stuff and any kind of like, you know, PDF reports or analysis or proposals because it has access to all my data, I can just say, you know, do this, this, this. And that’s usually my, my process.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 30:07
Love it. First of all, thank you. Zeke I’m gonna get to ask if you want to stay. Stay. If you gotta hop off, I totally get it.
You’ll probably want to stay. This, this. He’s speaking to our group as of right now. On on Monday about AI and how to use AI in your business. And both of you both geek out on AI.
So as a first of all, just start off you know your name, what you do, and your website so people can check it out. And we’ll get to books, podcasts and software. But what what do you do and where can people check it out?
Asif Rehmani: 30:38
Yeah. Jeremy, good to have me. Good to be here. Thanks for having me. Actually, I was going to say.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 30:43
You’re like, it is good to have me. Yeah.
Asif Rehmani: 30:46
Good to have me. Good to meet you. I am in Chicago, as you know. Jeremy. We’re both in Chicago.
Hopefully meeting each other tonight in person to. First of all, as you asked, my business is called VisualSP. It’s completely online. It’s a software business that we’re in right now. It’s visualsp.com we focus very much on helping organizations, especially midsize organizations who are Microsoft customers, helping them with their employee and support by providing overlays that go directly on top of their web applications like dynamic SharePoint, workday, whatever it is that they have deployed to just support their employees. And now, as Zeke was talking about, also, we are very, very heavily into AI, very, very as a business and me as an individual also. So I’ll tell you a little bit more about that as we go into it. But good to be here.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 31:41
Yeah. And so let’s, let’s start off we’ll get to app software and those kind of things, which I’m sure you geek out on. But let’s start with your favorite books.
Asif Rehmani: 31:53
You know, I’m a big, big connoisseur of Kindle books just because I can take them everywhere. So like I’m showing my phone over here so much that I got on this device alone, some of the ones that come to mind, they’re not really technical books, but they’re these are books that have been extremely helpful to me as an individual and just to Me, you know, developing myself. There’s one called How to Know a Person by David Brooks. Very good one relating to other humans, which seems like an art that we are losing these days. So that’s a really good one.
There’s another one called Letting Go. It’s a very good book. David Hawkins there’s Power of Now by Eckhart Tolle I believe he wrote that the at the beginning of the century. And there’s so much good stuff that comes out of his mouth all the time. I cannot not mention Gino Wickman’s Traction because we run EOS in our company, so that’s a big one for us.
And there’s several more. Never Split the Difference by Christopher Voss and Tahl Raz.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 33:01
One of my favorites?
Asif Rehmani: 33:03
Yeah, The Almanack of Naval Ravikant, I think is an extremely innovative and introspective individual, so I follow his teachings quite a bit. So a lot of good stuff and so many more.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 33:13
Love it. What about podcasts on the podcast front?
Asif Rehmani: 33:17
Well, it has to be Inspired Insider obviously. Number one by Jeremy Weisz. Right.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 33:22
Oh, I I’ll take it. Thank you.
Asif Rehmani: 33:24
All right. I heard Zeke mentioned Lenny’s Podcast. Those are awesome. Awesome. I think I listened to the Ben Horowitz one.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 33:35
Oh.
Asif Rehmani: 33:35
Did you. Okay, I think so. Well, unless you did it again, I know there was one of them that he did before. Was that recent right now?
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 33:43
It was. It was September 11th. It looks like.
Asif Rehmani: 33:48
Okay, so this is a recent one. Maybe I’m thinking about a different, different podcast that Ben did or. Anyway, I love that guy. Also extremely knowledgeable. Lenny’s Podcast for sure is one of the top ones.
I listen to The Daily by New York Times on a regular basis. Just take one topic and go deep inside, I love that instead of just saying, here’s 20 different things that are going on because there’s too much going on, there’s another podcast speaking of AI called the AI Deep Dive. I don’t know if you’ve seen that. There’s actually two hosts. They’re both AI hosts.
They’re not real people. It’s just two AI entities. And they’re talking about what’s new in AI.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 34:31
And that’s pretty meta.
Asif Rehmani: 34:34
It’s it is.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 34:35
AI talking about AI.
Asif Rehmani: 34:37
It’s pretty trippy also because they’re talking about AI like it’s something else instead of themselves. So they’re not aware that AI just the way it is. It’s pretty cool. Listen to that. Yeah.
So AI deep dive. There’s one called the Scaling or The Science of Scaling by Mark Roberge, who used to be at HubSpot. That’s a very good one. There’s so many all in comes to mind founders. It’s a pretty good one.
So many good podcasts.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 35:05
So let’s get into apps and software.
Asif Rehmani: 35:09
Wow. I heard Zeke mentioned before he left the Wispr Flow. That’s so funny because I have that in my mind also. I use it every single day. I’m looking at the icon right now on my laptop for Wispr Flow.
It’s been a game changer. I already speak a lot to my computer, to my phone, and Wispr Flow just makes it easy with AI. I feel like I’m advertising for them, but it is pretty cool application. But I another one that’s a classic, at least for me, and I use it so much every single day is OneNote. I’ve just been using OneNote.
I know many people use Evernote or just notes on their Apple device or whatever. For me, it’s OneNote and I got a ridiculous amount of notebooks and sections and pages. I put all my brain, my thoughts and everything in there. So that’s a big one. AI tools go without saying, you know, obviously I use like I’m looking at my phone.
I have ChatGPT Perplexity. Claude Copilot Grok Gemini. I got all of them and When I’m paying for most of them, actually. But there’s just so much that I learn, and I do, and I do it for different purposes. And I teach on this, as you know, AI for business and AI for personal.
Personal. I teach on these things all the time, so it just makes sense to have all of them to keep abreast on what’s going on. You know, how we can help others with the knowledge. Obviously I have to mention our own software VisualSP, that’s our software. So that goes into the softwares and apps tools.
Also, we actually VisualSP internally as well to find our own data or to get help on our own application. So when someone comes in new in our company, we say, hey, you’re looking for an answer, go into VisualSP. It’s going to have all the knowledge and it’s going to give you overlays and lots of good stuff. So that’s great.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 36:51
Talk about how that works. How does VisualSP work.
Asif Rehmani: 36:55
Yeah. You know so I’ve been a trainer and I even before that was a curriculum developer for a long, long time. And it was always before I’m talking about early 2000 where you go to a knowledge base or you go to a learning management system or learning system to get your information. And then when we started developing this software, it was very much like, don’t go anywhere. The information that you need is right there, you know, at your moment of need.
If I’m using a system, the answer is overlaid on the system in the form of a maybe a simple announcement banner or a guided walkthrough, or an inline help something flashing in your face right there like, hey, pay attention to me. You click on the video appears lots of good stuff like that. It overlays. This feels like it’s part of the system. That’s how it works.
And now we’re incorporating some pretty amazing AI stuff in there, where it knows where you are and gives you information from a different source. Coming directly here as to, hey, here’s what you need to know right here, so you don’t have to go there. So pretty cool stuff in my opinion, but I’m biased.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 37:54
Anything interesting of how you said you have different AI tools for different functions?
Asif Rehmani: 38:00
Yeah.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 38:01
So give an example of that of, you know, maybe you’re using this for this and this for something else?
Asif Rehmani: 38:08
Sure. ChatGPT is still my main brainstorming buddy. I use that for everything you know. Preparing for things and brainstorming on things. Or even.
I was developing some curriculum for Microsoft Copilot training, and I’ve been a curriculum developer for a very long time, but now it helps me develop it much, much faster with different things that I can dig into. So I used GPT quite a bit, but then followed by Google Gemini. They have a pretty awesome image generator that keeps that keeps your images called a character preservation, I believe. Take your image, for example, Jeremy, and put you on a beach somewhere, which I’m sure you would love to be on right now. So that I do that a lot with character preservation and image manipulation, I use perplexity for a lot of news and information.
They have a really good newsfeed that appears directly in the app or on the computer also then Microsoft Copilot, because we run our business on Microsoft Copilot, all of our meetings and teams and SharePoint and notes, everything is there. So when I ask about, hey, we met with this particular client, you know, what do we discuss on September 4th or whatever it would tell me immediately. So I use that quite a bit. I don’t use as much and I’m not. That’s probably the only AI that I’m not paying for.
It’s I’m using the free model and I’m just trying to use that as comparison for other ones. But it’s very liberal, which could be good or bad. Depends on how you look at it, you know. And then Claude Claude is a great writing partner where you could get really deep into some very good introspective writing, where it’s probably the best writer and good for code generation, which I’m not a coder anymore. I used to be a long time ago, but I would use that specifically if I was.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 39:52
Well, first of all, I just want to thank you. Thanks for sharing your books, podcasts, apps and software. Appreciate it.
Asif Rehmani: 40:00
Yeah, good to be here.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 40:03
All right. We have great people, great resources. I’m excited to have Rolando Rosas on with us. And we’ll talk about favorite books, podcasts, software. But, Rolando, we’ll start off with what you do and your website so people can check it out.
Rolando Rosas: 40:19
Well, I am in the electronics business and audio business and helping.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 40:24
I couldn’t tell from your setup there.
Rolando Rosas: 40:28
And helping people in businesses be more productive, especially for remote work. So we sell tools like professional headsets, speakerphones all the those types of electronics that equip people for that type of remote work, as well as for office settings. I’ve been doing that for over 20 years and, you know, trying to evolve with the times, so to speak. In terms of website, you can find us on Amazon.com. That’s Amazon.com.
Slash tech.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 41:04
Yeah. And you know, if you’ve bought some on Amazon headsets that you may have already bought from Rolando. Right.
Rolando Rosas: 41:09
So probably you probably bought a bunch of stuff from or your organization has bought it. And actually one of the things that we’ve been doing that’s new that wasn’t available is that we can actually support customers. It’s been coming mostly from the enterprise side. The knock on Amazon is that, you know, if they want support, it’s off to somebody, you know, remotely, somewhere that doesn’t understand. We actually partnered with them to tackle that.
So every customer of ours that buys on Amazon within the Amazon app, I was just two clicks away from getting support from my team. So that’s fairly new. And we love that because now our customers like what we’re giving them, the product plus the support that they’re looking for.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 41:49
Oh that’s amazing. Yeah, I’ve experienced firsthand your products and support and it’s it’s pretty amazing. Let’s go to books Looks first.
Rolando Rosas: 42:00
Yeah.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 42:01
Some of your favorite books.
Rolando Rosas: 42:02
Oh my goodness. I’m going to offend some people if I just say your favorite book.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 42:08
You could say multiple.
Rolando Rosas: 42:10
You know there’s one. There’s. Never Split the Difference from Chris Voss. That is amazing.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 42:20
You had someone from their team on your podcast?
Rolando Rosas: 42:23
Yes. Derek Gaunt. He was amazing. He was an amazing guest. I, you know, his episode did really well on our podcast, and he was just amazing.
Just the part of how do you have a dialogue with somebody, whether when somebody is, you know, being are screaming in your face and all of that. And let me ask you this. Do you think it’s harder to have a conversation or a dialogue with a terrorist versus a toddler?
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 42:55
That’s the question. Well, actually.
Rolando Rosas: 42:57
That’s.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 42:58
Well, that’s why I bought Never Split The Difference. People were like, oh, it’s a great negotiation book and it’s great for business. And what I heard, you know, and Chris Voss, ex FBI hostage negotiator, right. He’s negotiating with terrorists. What I heard was, I feel like it’s hard to get my kid out the door in the morning.
And so that’s actually why I originally bought it, because I’m like, well, if this person can negotiate with terrorists, then surely it will work on with little kids. So that’s why that’s that’s what caused me to buy the book in the first place.
Rolando Rosas: 43:35
Yeah. His his and it’s amazing. And there’s a couple other books I can give you. Colin Woodard, 11 nation. I’m looking it up because I forgot the exact 11 nations of the US.
So if you read that book, it they have writings of people that describe their adventures, going to places like New York back in the 1800s. And it’s the exact same, quote, complaints that people have about New York, people, you know, they’re brash and and what he explains is that.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 44:06
You’re wearing you’re wearing the Yankees hat.
Rolando Rosas: 44:10
Yes. That even if you bring in a new, new group of people, a new group of immigrants, a new group of folks from different walks of life, and they come into a region, whether it’s New York, whether it’s the Midwest, whether it’s the West Coast, they eventually adopt what’s there. It just they it just becomes that it doesn’t become the other way around. So New York will never become Mississippi. Mississippi will never become New York.
And the people that moved to those areas historically have done that. And he explains that we’re actually a part of 11 nations inside the US. And he traces the origins of those. Fascinating. Fascinating.
Very fascinating. There’s another one by David Epstein. I’m trying to remember the name of that title, but.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 45:06
He’s got a few books. Right. David.
Rolando Rosas: 45:08
Yes. And so he’s actually on a book tour right now of sorts. So, David, if you’re listening to this, I’d love to talk to you.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 45:15
Range is one of them.
Rolando Rosas: 45:17
Yes. So sports.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 45:19
Gene. What? I don’t know which one is the new one.
Rolando Rosas: 45:21
Yes, yes. So. So he’s got a couple of them. But one of the things that that he looked at was research around the 10,000 hours, the whole 10,000 hours. And he knows the guy that wrote is that Malcolm Gladwell that wrote 10,000.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 45:34
Well, yeah, it’s a The Tipping Point book. Yeah. He talks about 10,000 hours. Yeah.
Rolando Rosas: 45:39
And so that that’s a myth. You don’t need 10,000 hours because in the original study, there were people that got to the expertise and mastery way sooner than 10,000 hours, some that took much, much longer than that. So that 10,000 hours is not correct, which is fascinating. So you could become a master at what you’re doing. So.
So there’s actual studies that have looked at this. You can become a master within 17 minutes of day every. So if you don’t know how to play the piano, 17 minutes a day is all you need. You do that for a year. You’re going to be ahead of 90% of the people that try to play piano because they play it once a month, or, you know, one hour a every quarter or something like that, or whenever the mood hits them, 17 minutes a day through a year gets you further than 90% of the people that are trying to play piano.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 46:33
It’s all about consistency. And Dr. Kim, thanks for joining us. I’ll get you in a second. I was going to say when you came in, you were saying about New York, and I joke around our mutual friend Chad Rubin, and I’m like, what? I said, you know, I go, you’re a nice New Yorker, but the the nicest New Yorker is still not as nice as the meanest Canadian or Minnesotan.
So.
Rolando Rosas: 46:58
Well, Minnesota was was where I went to school and lived for a long time.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 47:02
That’s what Dr. Kim has.
Rolando Rosas: 47:04
Oh, is that right? Yeah, we’re we’re in Minnesota. Are you?
Dr. Kim Tran: 47:08
Minneapolis.
Rolando Rosas: 47:09
Oh, I lived in Saint Paul.
Dr. Kim Tran: 47:12
Yeah. Small town though. Worthington is where I’m originally from.
Rolando Rosas: 47:15
Oh, my. Where did you go to?
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 47:17
Duluth, Rolanda.
Rolando Rosas: 47:19
I went to school at a liberal arts college called Macalester, right in Saint Paul. And it’s crazy because Saint Paul and Minneapolis are so close, and there’s a whole ton of colleges and universities literally within a 20 minute radius. It’s just crazy that there’s in most colleges tend to be in the middle of nowhere. If you look at where they’re all spread through the US, they’re in all most of them in the middle of nowhere in the Twin Cities. 20 minutes, you can hit a bunch of schools and universities.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 47:50
Yeah, I like what you’re saying about, you know, and I’ll have to check out the David Epstein books. I don’t know if I have in my audible or not, but, you know, when I decided I’m going to train for the Murph workout, which is a, you know, kind of a benchmark CrossFit workout, and that I won’t go into the whole thing. But one of the part of the workout, you have to do 100 pull ups, right? And I could do at the time one pull up. Right.
And so I just decided I’m going to do one. It’s consistency I was going to like in between when I’m cooking dinner or whatever, put a pull up bar up, I’m going to do one pull up a day or one every time I put something on the stove and just did that every single day and maybe would do 1 or 2. And then that led to more. Right. And so eventually.
So it’s just that consistency thing, like you said, just whatever 17 whatever the time is 17.
Rolando Rosas: 48:41
17 minutes a day. Here’s another one from David Epstein that he it was really kind of cool and enlightening, so to speak, that people that so the whole argument specialist versus generalist. And what he said was that people that are generalists, if you’re especially looking at sports performance, they tend to do better because this expertise is in sports. So if you have somebody that played baseball and they played all their, you know, their youth, you’re going to have some people that outperform. But if you’re looking at even great athletes, even the elites, they may have done 2 or 3, four sports until they got to college or until they got to high school.
And then their skill set took over when they started playing just basketball.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 49:32
I think, and there’s a really good book, The Talent Code. I think they talk about in The Talent Code, about Wayne Gretzky. I think where exactly what you’re saying, like he was basically playing all these sports. He wasn’t like only doing hockey, like all the time. You appreciate.
Rolando Rosas: 49:49
I didn’t.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 49:49
Know that being in Minnesota, you know, hockey doctor. But like. Yeah, I think it was in The Talent Code where he’s like, yeah, he’s doing all these sports. And until later he obviously only did hockey. But up until that point, you know, and now in this day and age, a lot of kids are like, well, I’m only doing baseball and I’m that’s all I’m focused in on.
And that’s not how it was.
Rolando Rosas: 50:12
No, no. And he says, he says it’s a mistake to do that because he in in this talk that I was listening to him talk about Serena Williams, I guess he was somewhere and she was in the audience talking about generalists or specialists. She stood up and he says, I look like I had the fear of God.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 50:30
Yeah, it’s like it’s either go really good or really bad at this point.
Rolando Rosas: 50:33
Exactly. And so she was like, yeah, you’re on to something because my dad encouraged us to do ballet and dance and this and that and the other, they didn’t. And there, her and her sister are some of the most dominant, probably the most dominant in our modern history when it comes to a sport, you know, and she did a number of different sports until later they just focused on tennis, which. So there’s she said there’s something to that.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 51:05
So books now let’s get a podcast. Favorite podcast, obviously give a shout out for your podcast and and some of the guests you love and we’ll get into podcasts.
Rolando Rosas: 51:13
Yeah. My podcast is called What the Teck? with the K tech and my some of the podcasts that I’m really nerding out on. I love Stephen Bartlett The Diary of a CEO. I watch him often on the content creator side. I like Colin and Samir’s show.
They have a number of different guests, very good deep dives, so I like listening to them. I would say those are the two that I have time for and then sporadically I may pick up, you know, an AI podcast, AI advantage, which is, you know, AI. It’s pretty simple, but this guy’s pretty good at breaking that. The stuff that’s trending on AI.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 51:57
Some of your memorable guests.
Rolando Rosas: 52:00
Derek was one. Another one people may not know is a professor, Mike Perko. He said to me that his kid was in lacrosse camp, and one of the coaches, he had his kid at the lacrosse camp. They had a situation where his kid was the smallest kid at the camp, and so they basically said, well, how many fist bumps can we do in one hour or something? Oh, somebody yelled out 500.
So they did and the coach and got them all motivated. All of them performed well from the from the the grunt of the group to the most, the most the biggest guy on the team. Then he never had another coach like that. And so he’s like, that’s terrible that most kids don’t have that experience. Then he tells me that the NBA has done research around this type of concept, and that players perform better after a fist bump.
And because I said to him, this has got to be foo foo stuff. We we foo foo kumbaya stuff. This isn’t what’s the science behind it. He goes, no, there’s some serious science behind it. And I will bring it all the way personal to me that a couple of weeks ago, I was asked to be a a substitute soccer coach for my kids little soccer thing that he does.
I did exactly that. I implemented what this professor said would work. All the parents loved it.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 53:34
They the kid would you have the kids all give each other fist bumps or what? Are you.
Rolando Rosas: 53:38
Yes. Periodically. Not every time. You know, just, you know. Here.
Yeah. We finished our drill. Come on, everybody, come on in bloom. And then they said they were more engaged. And some of the kids wanted me as their coach.
That was surprising. I was not expecting that. I was not expecting that. I was not expecting that at all. So there’s something there.
Do I know all of what’s happening there and the science behind it? I just know if the NBA says it works and he’s I think he was giving a talk recently to the US soccer Federation about this so that more and more it’s free. You know, just do it. You know and kids kind of lift their spirits. They’re more engaged.
And if it’s free and it works, why not.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 54:22
I love it. Favorite apps and software okay.
Rolando Rosas: 54:28
So apps, I got a ton on my phone. I’m loving the the three AI, so I’ll put them all together and Gemini, Claude and ChatGPT I use them all three and play around with them. Because every single day if you fall asleep, you don’t know, oh, this one came out with this one, and this one’s agentic and this one’s, you know, vibe coding now and you will complete oh nano banana that’s on Gemini. So playing around with.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 54:57
Them you find.
Rolando Rosas: 54:59
You find out. Oh wow. This is here this I could do this just last week. So those are the three I would say that I like software I really am liking descript. So if you’re into the content business, descript is really another thing that’s just made editing video for non hardcore video people.
If you want to have a video that looks way better than just a camera shot or just, you know, webcam, this takes that to the next level. For non hardcore editors. Like most people, it’s just a really great piece of software.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 55:38
Any in your phone? Favorite apps?
Rolando Rosas: 55:43
I get the three, those three that I use them, I use them on my phone. I use them regularly. Claude, ChatGPT and Gemini, all those three apps, those I would say right now are my favorite three apps.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 55:56
Rolando, thank you. As always, you can stay on if you hop on, hop off and you’re busy with doctor and I’m going to get to Dr. Kim. Dr. Kim, thanks for joining me. And this is great people great resources. And we’ll get to books, podcasts, apps and software.
But let’s just start off with what you do and your website.
Dr. Kim Tran: 56:18
So I am a chiropractor, acupuncturist, functional medicine practitioner. I love doing anything integrative health. I always want to help people get to their greatest God given potential. And the biggest part right now is actually working on just expanding out the radio show podcast stuff. And so we decided to go with Align and Abide Moving forward.
I you know, I know this.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 56:42
I like the word a line.
Dr. Kim Tran: 56:43
25 that helped me come up with it.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 56:47
I know them.
Dr. Kim Tran: 56:49
Do you? I kind of like them a lot right now.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 56:53
What’s your website so people can check it out?
Dr. Kim Tran: 56:55
My website is Dr. Kim Dotcom.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 56:58
Right. And your podcast, all the episodes will be linked there. Kim’s been doing a radio show for for many years. Yeah. So maybe we’ll start with the podcast front and we can talk about your podcast, some of your favorite podcasts in general, but talk about yours for a second and some favorite guests you’ve had on.
Dr. Kim Tran: 57:19
I have actually found some of my favorite guests to even just be some of my patients who have given testimonials. I was talking about this with somebody else who I actually met, this woman who is a guest who was. I really wanted to give insight to people that maybe when we look at addiction or we look at traumas that people have been through, that it doesn’t actually define them. And I had met this woman because I sponsor a lot of art fairs. She came by, she came in as a patient.
She was actually born to a meth addict. And so to hear her story of her coming on, explaining how she was sold in to sex early on and that her first hit of meth was actually with her mom at 13. And then it starts giving you a very different perspective of, you know, addiction or what people are suffering with, too, you know? And I think that now expanding out this podcast, I mean, even today on the airplane, when I was flying into Atlanta, I actually met another couple who it’s not even she’s the wife of one of the Minnesota state representatives in Minnesota. That’s going to come on.
And then on top of it, they actually have a ministry that they actually helped to sponsor medical supplies, schools and students in Honduras. So it’s pretty amazing just the opportunities we get to meet with, you know, when you’re really curious about meeting people and their stories.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 58:54
That’s great. Any favorite podcast that you listen to?
Dr. Kim Tran: 58:57
You know, my couple of favorite people I love Codie Sanchez. She is I think she just is so motivating as like a woman entrepreneur. Her podcast is the BigDeal. And Dan Martell, I really just like his no Santa, no nonsense approach to like, how do you get your time back? And I think this is important is like any entrepreneur is sometimes you can be your own bottleneck and realize that, yes, you’re going to allow other people to do it and they’re probably going to do it at about 70% of what you can do it, but then it’s still going to get done and you can really focus more on what you do really well.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 59:39
You know, Dr. Kim, you mentioned Codie Sanchez. So like there’s a platform we’ll get to apps and software in a second and books. But I had the there’s Delphi AI and I don’t know if you’ve heard of that before. I the founder on it basically helps people create a clone of themselves. And so you can talk to them and, you know, ask questions and things like that.
So I saw this person speak. I had the founder on the podcast, but when I reached out to them, I said, I don’t want to have you on the podcast. I actually want to have your video clone on the podcast. So I interviewed their video clone for 20 minutes, just me and their video clone, and published the episode. And then I said, hey, if you want to come on.
And so then I had him on just chat for like 5 or 10 minutes, and I put that on the front end of the interview. And then I had Joe Polish’s AI video clone on my podcast Cast from Delphi. Codie, the reason I’m saying that is Codie Sanchez is actually on Delphi, so maybe you can interview her video clone for your podcast. I’m actually going to do. I messaged the Delphi founder and the one of the co-founders of HubSpot, Brian Halligan.
I said, hey, do you mind if can you reach out to Brian and see if I can interview his video clone for the for the podcast? And he responded, yes. I don’t have a confirmation with Brian, but he said, yeah, you can have Brian on. So I’m going to probably interview the co-founder of HubSpot on my podcast through Delphi. So we’ll have to we’ll look at.
Rolando Rosas: 1:01:15
How good was that interview.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 1:01:16
What’s that?
Rolando Rosas: 1:01:17
How good is the ones with the clones?
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 1:01:19
They’re very interesting. Yeah. Check it out if anyone goes to inspiredinsider.com and you search Delphi or search Joe Polish, it says in there with you know their video clone. So anyways, on the Codie Sanchez thing, she is on Delphi so you can talk to her and ask her questions or type in whatever it is.
So maybe that’s a future guest for you for sure.
Dr. Kim Tran: 1:01:45
That would be amazing.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 1:01:46
Yeah. So books, what are your favorite books?
Dr. Kim Tran: 1:01:51
Okay, well, my number one go to book is obviously the Bible. Right.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 1:01:55
But that’s that’s a repeat. A repeat one on these episodes for sure.
Dr. Kim Tran: 1:02:00
Is that the repeat one is the other author that I completely love right now is Michelle McLean Walters. She is. She writes so many books on like the anointing, the anointing or the chosen. It’s all these books of people in the Bible, and it really applies into like, how do you apply it to your real life if you’re going through suffering, if you’re going through burdens, if you’re going through things in your own life. and I think it just makes it so relatable to people that you can go through and think that sometimes you’re reading old stories and you’re thinking, well, that’s not going to apply to me now.
But yet, you know, seeing how she integrates that in. I mean, she’s like one of my like, dream people to have on my podcast, right?
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 1:02:50
Any other favorite books?
Dr. Kim Tran: 1:02:54
Right now, most of my books right now involve studying languages. So I have been really big in getting more in depth with Vietnamese, Spanish, French. I mean, I had a patient who came in from Switzerland, so good thing that background German from high school really played out.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 1:03:15
How many languages do you speak?
Dr. Kim Tran: 1:03:18
I actually got a at the College of Saint Scholastica. They gave me a scholarship to learn Ojibwe. Can you believe this? It’s like a, you know, so when people are like, well, do you really know? Like they’ll kind of pretend on different languages.
So then I’ll be like, Bungee Buju, I mean, again.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 1:03:43
You have a knack for languages. I take it, though.
Dr. Kim Tran: 1:03:45
Yeah, I really like languages, though. It’s kind of funny when I’m in Vietnam or I was talking with one of my Spanish patients, but sometimes I. If you’ve ever spoke different languages, sometimes I have a tendency to plop in a different word of a different language. So like I was talking to one of my Vietnamese patients very simply, and I was like, oh yeah, you have pain here. But I said, now achy, which is like pain, right?
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 1:04:14
Exactly like you’re mixing the two.
Dr. Kim Tran: 1:04:18
Yeah. I get some interesting looks from my family in Vietnam sometimes when I do that.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 1:04:23
So what about on the apps and software front? What are some of the software used in the computer on the phone?
Dr. Kim Tran: 1:04:31
Actually, one of my go to things just because of patients is like Google Translate. With certain patients, when we’re going through like the patient from Switzerland. What I had to explain something really quick. It was just nice to be able to pull that up really quickly and just give her a quick translation over that. Duolingo.
I also, just from a language, speaking like if you’re really looking to grow your language. I actually like an app called Bible Eyes and what it is, is you can actually play all the different types of Bible versions in different languages. So I love it for, you know, practicing Vietnamese, Spanish, looking at French, things like that. So it makes it makes it applicable to what I’ve already known. But then I can hear it in another language.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 1:05:21
Any health apps or software.
Dr. Kim Tran: 1:05:26
I used to be really big on a macros app when I was training for competitions.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 1:05:32
What is it?
Dr. Kim Tran: 1:05:33
Macros.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 1:05:34
Oh, macros. Okay.
Dr. Kim Tran: 1:05:35
Yeah. Like, I always think that’s important. Like, if you’re really looking to get in shape and really just watch your diet. Like when I was training for all the competitions, we had to really keep track of. Okay, how many grams of protein did I use today?
Carbs, fats. So I’ve really liked those apps as far as health, just because I think sometimes people can be so consumed with calorie count and not looking at what nutrients are putting in.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 1:06:04
Yeah, I mean, it was kind of for me when I started getting more serious with my diet, it was shocking. I wasn’t really paying attention at all, to be honest with you. And when I started paying attention, I’m like, oh my God, there’s that much calories and that much fat in this stuff. It was insane. And so I was just consuming so much.
And just as you know what, when you measure something, you you pay attention to it. Whatever it is. And so I’ve used certain apps like that. And now I’m very routine based. So I just now try and eat the same thing for most people probably get bored, but I can eat the same thing for breakfast, lunch and dinner so I don’t have to use those apps.
I’m like, okay, I know if I just eat this like this is where I need to be. But it was shocking to me how much how many calories I was eating in a day, not paying attention to it. What about you, Rolando? Any anything on the health side that you do that you track or look at from a app or software? I’m looking.
Rolando Rosas: 1:07:06
At, I don’t.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 1:07:09
I have like a.
Rolando Rosas: 1:07:09
Little what what I’ll tell you what I do do is there’s a very good channel. Knees over toes. Oh yeah.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 1:07:20
I love that one.
Dr. Kim Tran: 1:07:21
Knees over toes. I talked about that guy. Oh, Oh.
Rolando Rosas: 1:07:23
Yes. He’s super, super. Good and it’s been super helpful. There’s another channel I can’t remember the name of. The guy is it’s GMB and it’s some of those type of philosophies from knees over toes guy, as well as some other movements that you can incorporate. And those two have gotten. I had a really bad shoulder.
I couldn’t even crawl on the floor. And now I can crawl on the floor pain free. And so those are the two. If some if you have some kind of knee injury, shoulder injury, definitely check out knee over toes because he does more than just knees and knees and toes. And then GMB is the other one.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 1:08:05
Yeah I when I tore my meniscus I was like consuming all of his videos.
Rolando Rosas: 1:08:11
He well I think he, he tore his knee and they.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 1:08:14
Told.
Rolando Rosas: 1:08:14
Him he can’t jump anymore. You’re not gonna, you know now.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 1:08:17
He can dunk I think standing.
Rolando Rosas: 1:08:19
Oh yeah. He’s like dunk.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 1:08:20
From from just standing.
Rolando Rosas: 1:08:21
From sitting, from a squat position. From a squat position, he can dunk a white guy. You know.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 1:08:31
White men can jump.
Rolando Rosas: 1:08:33
And he can jump. What’s that?
Dr. Kim Tran: 1:08:36
I’m going to expect you to do that too.
Rolando Rosas: 1:08:38
Yes. I want to see you dunk.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 1:08:40
I would love to go.
Dr. Kim Tran: 1:08:42
Right.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 1:08:42
You know, I should be. I’m six three, so you’d think.
Rolando Rosas: 1:08:46
Closer to the rim than I am.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 1:08:47
Exactly.
Rolando Rosas: 1:08:48
At least touch it or something.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 1:08:50
Exactly. Well, thank you both for joining. I appreciate it. And, yeah, just stay tuned for the next one.
Rolando Rosas: 1:09:00
All right. Thank you. Jeremy.
