Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 18:12
No, no. Michael Husain, did the documentary. Duncan is the one who introduced us. Bob Costas is involved in it as well. So yeah, he’d be great for your podcast.
Barry Kleiman: 18:28
Mike, if Michael would come on, I’d have him in a heartbeat because, you know, I’m again I’m. I don’t want any of this. What I wrote or talked about to be about me. I actually should probably put that in there. And it’s maybe one more book.
I don’t know if I’m guessing Jeremy, you know. No, it Ian, maybe you know it, but Steven Pressfield’s Nobody Wants to Read Your Sh*t.
Ian Garlic: 18:55
Yes, love Steven Pressfield.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 18:57
Yeah, I have not read that one, but his other ones. The War of Art.
Ian Garlic: 19:03
The War of Art. It’s one of my favorites.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 19:06
The War of Art.
Barry Kleiman: 19:07
Yeah.The War of Art. Yeah. Art of War is Sun Tzu, who’s quoted in my book. But no, he’s amazing. And his book Nobody Wants to Read Your Sh*t was a huge help when I wrote mine, because he gives it. It’s a great book, and anybody who wants to be a creative. Right. Should read it because he’s not being cynical. He’s really trying to be instructive.
You know, you get people to read your stuff in certain ways in certain triggers. Right. And anyway, so that’s a really good book and it really helped me. There’s a chapter in there about writing the sort of book that I wrote, and I tried to stay in my writing, Pressfield compliant, because it was a great guidepost. I don’t know if Steven has a podcast, but if he did, I’d listen to it.
To go back to your podcast, Rick Rubin, Rick Rubin.
Ian Garlic: 20:07
Oh, I love Rick Rubin.
Barry Kleiman: 20:08
Broken Record, fabulous podcast, deep deep dude, smart dude.
Ian Garlic: 20:16
His audiobook is one of my favorites and books.
Barry Kleiman: 20:19
Unbelievable, right? I mean yeah, it’s so good, right? I would listen to that falling asleep seriously. And then, you know, I could listen to it for 5 or 6 nights because you never know what you miss. Right.
Ian Garlic: 20:31
It’s a beautiful book, too. I give that as gifts for people, too.
Barry Kleiman: 20:34
Yes. Beautiful. Which again reminds me, I’ve been listening to Born to Run, the Springsteen autobiography, which Bruce reads. And the other day it’s unbelievable just to hear him read his life story. And you know, people might not like the dude’s politics, but his journey is so instructive.
Yes. I mean, this is a guy you want to talk about Playground Principles. This dude did not have an easy path and still struggles, you know, you know, with, with, with depression and all things being equal. But somebody who Jeremy and I both know. In fact, I probably do my Facebook live about this today or tomorrow.
But Doctor Theresa, Jeremy, you know, from our group. Anyway, she got on a podcast that I was on the other day and she was very sweet. She goes, I think Barry’s book is one of the best books you’ll ever read about connection with self and others, which was very sweet, but the Springsteen book is one of the best books you’ll ever read about connection with self and others, because there’s a guy who had to connect with himself almost hourly. I mean, his his emotional states were nothing like he would seem as a rock star, right?
He, you know, he was a yeah, it’s an amazing book. So, you know, anyway, that’s another. But Rick Rubin’s pod is quite good and.
Ian Garlic: 22:04
Jeremy, that reminds me not to interrupt, but yeah, I don’t want to forget this. And I and Barry, I think you’ll like these two. Audible comes with words and music. And so they’re audio books of music artists. And James Taylor’s and Sting’s are there, like an hour and a half long.
Absolutely amazing. Like, amazing.
Barry Kleiman: 22:25
So it’s called Words and Music from audible?
Ian Garlic: 22:29
Yeah. It comes with your audible subscription too. Oh, and they both obviously narrate them, but then they play their songs in between. Oh, and just like, oh, it’s so good. And it’s actually.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 22:39
That’s when you were talking about that. Go ahead.
Ian Garlic: 22:41
Sting I do you know how sting became sting? Well, he had the name sting.
Barry Kleiman: 22:47
No.
Ian Garlic: 22:48
Do you want me to spoil it? No. This is great. I always thought he, I thought he was like he named himself.
No, he was a 16 year old jazz player. And he’d play in these jazz clubs in London. And his girlfriend one time gave him this sweater that was black and yellow. And he went in there and like, oh, nice to see you Sting. And so he’s named after a black and yellow sweater that they made fun of.
And one of the best stories ever about showing up is in there. I’m going to run this one too, because I think it’s absolutely best is. So the Police came to the United States to like, play for all these deejays, and they were upstate New York and they like, they were supposed to play this big venue. And it snowed out and only three people showed up and they went and played. And they’re like, we played our hearts out for these three people.
Well, it turned out they were the three deejays that made them famous. They didn’t know that.
Barry Kleiman: 23:50
See?
Ian Garlic: 23:52
How about showing up? Right?
Barry Kleiman: 23:54
Show up right. Compete every day is a tryout. That’s a Playground Principles, just show up and play.
Ian Garlic: 23:59
Show up and play.
Barry Kleiman: 24:00
See what happens, you know? Yeah. No one’s watching. Right. And so yeah, certainly.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 24:06
What you were saying that and I was looking at audible for Barry’s book. Barry I don’t I don’t think it’s on audible yet.
Barry Kleiman: 24:11
Okay. So Jeremy, so thank you for saying that because you inspired me a lot. Not before I wrote this book. We had a conversation. It could have been two years ago, I don’t know.
No. And you say I recommended something to you, and you said to me, is it on audible because I only read or listen to books on audible? Does that sound like something you would say?
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 24:31
100%.
Barry Kleiman: 24:32
Right?
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 24:33
Yeah, I remember where I was standing when I told you that.
Barry Kleiman: 24:36
So when I wrote this book, one of the things on my to do list is to turn it into an audible book. And there’s a guy and you may have had him on to Jeremy Dan Grunfeld. Do you know that.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 24:52
Yes of course.
Barry Kleiman:: 24:53
Okay.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 24:54
He’s got a great book. Great book.
Barry Kleiman: 24:56
But he didn’t. His audible book he did not read. And it bummed me out because.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 25:05
By the Grace of the Game.
Barry Kleiman: 25:06
By the Grace of the Game, it’s an exquisite book about, it’s an ode to basketball, his grandmother and her cooking. And his grandmother was also a Holocaust survivor. And they and he came to Stanford to play. I saw him play countless times because I live up by Cal. Whatever.
But anyway, he doesn’t read the book. And as I sit and listen in, Jeremy and I are both of the Jewish faith growing up at least. Whatever. Tonight’s the highest of all Jewish holidays. But when whoever read it, read some of the food dishes and mispronounced the, you know, the Eastern European transliterations, it was like fingernails on the blackboard, you know, because there’s an authenticity to reading your own stuff.
Right? Like Born Standing Up by Steve Martin is an amazing book. You know, my son’s a comedy writer and a filmmaker, but as Steve didn’t read that book, it would be okay. But him reading it is, you know, magnificent. So anyway.
So yeah. So Jeremy, I’m going to do it.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 26:19
As long as you get it done. Because Ian sent me a t-shirt.
Barry Kleiman: 26:23
Okay.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 26:24
And Ian what does the t-shirt say?
Ian Garlic: 26:26
Version done is better than version none.
Barry Kleiman:: 26:29
Yeah. Thank you.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 26:30
So, yes, probably there were some mispronunciations in Dan’s book, but it’s done right.
Barry Kleiman: 26:39
Oh, no. It’s a beautiful book.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 26:39
So as long as you. As long as you get it done. Because then I can actually read it. Listen to it. Right.
Barry Kleiman: 26:46
I’m. I have my sound engineer picked out.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 26:49
Okay.
Barry Kleiman: 26:50
I have my studio picked out. I went down to a studio here in El Cerrito and the guy said, I can do it for you, Barry, but do you have this kind of room in your house? Because you could do it yourself. And I just happened to have bought a sauna. And he said to me, that’s it’s a wooden sauna.
He said, it’s perfect. So yeah. So anyway, but I will do that and I don’t expect I’m going to send you a copy, Jeremy. Anyway, just so you have it. But you don’t.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 27:14
It’s just for show.
Barry Kleiman: 27:16
You don’t. It’s okay, I get it, I get. I get it, I get it. And yeah. Go ahead.
And if I get your address and I’ll send you one to go ahead.
Ian Garlic: 27:25
We’ll definitely connect up. I’ll send you a copy. I’ll buy it and deliver one. I’ll tell my wife I’ve got to go to San Francisco and deliver a book. That’s right.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 27:35
That’s right. So those are a few podcasts. And then. Yeah, I did have Dan on and people Dan Grunfeld you know if people I don’t know if you saw the Bernie and Ernie. There was a 30 for 30.
Bernie and Ernie and Ernie is Dan’s dad who so was on the Knicks I believe right.
Barry Kleiman: 27:54
Knicks. Yeah. And then was a GM for the Knicks.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 27:57
For a while too. Yeah.
Barry Kleiman: 27:59
You know and yeah.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 28:01
And so that was you know I, I watched the 30 for 30 before interviewing him just to check it out. And the book it’s it’s pretty remarkable a black guy and a Jewish guy and the Tennessee basketball team in that era is pretty interesting.
Barry Kleiman: 28:14
So the gentleman I spoke with yesterday. Also, he coached at Tennessee, but he just missed them by one, you know, one segment. And Jack Furtick is his name, who also has kind of a cool book. I wouldn’t say it’s my favorite because I haven’t read it yet, but his life is a joke. But another good guy.
But yeah, there’s so many stories around the game and ways to connect through it and so forth. So I don’t know what I did or didn’t answer for you.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 28:42
No, no, we’re good on the podcast. And then just we’ll just cap it off with favorite apps or software.
Barry Kleiman: 28:51
Oh yeah. You know, so it was a hard one for me because I, you know, as I used to deem myself the anti AI guy, I’m kind of anti tech, but I think Ian really helped me. I use everyday often, Apple Notes. It’s right there. It’s so handy.
And as a result I also use Apple Voice Memo Because like Ian was saying, I, you know, I take walks, I put these headsets on and I, I ponder my navel, you know, and, and come up with whatever. And then, you know, I get it transcribed. Yeah. So I guess those, you know, those are the two I just began subscribing to ChatGPT. Is that an app? I guess it is.
Ian Garlic: 29:39
Yeah.
Barry Kleiman: 29:41
No AI, you know, wizard, but it’s helpful. I refuse to let it write my book, I promise you that, you know, because.
Ian Garlic: 29:52
It’s good for feedback. Like, what do you think of this? Well, not.
Barry Kleiman: 29:56
Yeah, you’re right. So I’ll leave with this. And why it could be up there back to Pressfield. So I asked ChatGPT if it was familiar with Steven’s work and the book nobody wants to read. Yes.
I said, are you familiar with the chapter about writing self-help books? Yes. And basically what Steven says is you can’t preach, you know, you got to use metaphors and stories and anecdotes and so forth and so on, which of course, we know. You know, my friend Sue Rice wrote an amazing book called Tiny Thunders, which really was a big impetus to me writing my books. My book is a bunch of Tiny Thunder stories.
Whatever. But I said to chat what I’d like you to do. I’m going to read you the chapter that I just wrote, and I want you to tell me if you would call it Pressfield compliant, to your point. Ian Wright, I said I used it for as a, I don’t know, a study buddy or something. Right.
And so that was really helpful and you know, it is and I and then I would say don’t tell me what I want to hear. You know, pretend you’re Stephen because sometimes those things just kind of blow smoke or whatever. But anyway, that’s my, you know, so I don’t know if that’s an app or not, but yeah, this is great. Thank you Jeremy, very much.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 31:17
I love it, you know thanks for joining. And people can check out Playground Principles. And no I appreciate it.
This is my favorite people, favorite resources episode. I’m here with Jason Smith and Zach Wilcox. We’re gonna start with Jason.
Jason. Just tell people typically what you do before we launch into my three questions. What you do, your website, and we’ll launch in the first question.
Jason Smith: 31:41
Yeah. Cool. Thanks for having me on. I appreciate it. Glad to be among the favourites. My name is Jason Smith, based out of Los Angeles.
We are a social media marketing agency, so we help businesses grow and scale via paid ads like Meta, TikTok, Pinterest, all the social stuff. Website. Our website is SpotlightSocialAdvertising.com.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 32:07
My first question: Favorite books?
Jason Smith: 32:12
Favorite books. So one of my favorites. I’m actually reading the second time through it right now. The secrets of the Millionaire Mind by T Harv Eker is an awesome one, and I.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 32:23
Used to go to his conferences. He had like, did you ever go to his conference?
Jason Smith: 32:27
No, I would love to. I don’t think he’s doing them anymore.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 32:30
This was a long time ago.
Jason Smith: 32:31
Yeah, yeah. And he talks about them all in his book.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 32:34
Amazing ascension model like going. It was just brilliance in sales and marketing. Like going to the free one free workshop, going to the paid one and then they sell like the other paid ones. It’s like it reminded me of Tony Robbins a bit.
Jason Smith: 32:49
Yeah.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 32:49
That’s awesome. I do love that book.
Jason Smith: 32:51
Yeah, yeah. And I think one of my other favorite books, Dan Martell, Buy Back Your Time. That really changed things for me as well. And I do have an assistant thanks to Dan’s book. And that’s what you know, her doctor, Jeremy, Maya.
She’s amazing. And yeah, it’s been a game changer for me. So. And podcast. Podcast.
So. Well we have our own podcast, The Truth About Social Ads, where we tell you what no one else is telling you about what’s going on in the social ads world. And then one of my favorite podcasts is the Jefferson Fisher Podcast. I don’t know if you guys have heard of it, but basically he teaches you how to speak more eloquently, which from my background come from a street cop. That’s all I did was cuss and yell at people all day long.
So I definitely needed his podcast. And then another one of my favorites is, well, Rise25. A great one for sure.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 33:54
Favorite episode on that is Jason Smith Jason. But seriously, ex LAPD turned agency owner, he has some crazy stories which we won’t get into. You can listen to that.
Jason Smith: 34:09
So anyways, what.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 34:09
Was the last one after?
Jason Smith: 34:11
Yeah, I don’t need to talk about me, but. And then Founders talks and it’s just a podcast that goes through like the brilliance of how entrepreneurs found or, you know, create companies and how they founded it and all that stuff a lot about like Elon and how he works business wise, not personal, just business stuff. And yeah, it’s been a really cool podcast just to listen to. And he tells stories and reads books and just gives you tons of great information to help your business function better.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 34:45
So apps and software could be on your phone computer.
Jason Smith: 34:49
Yeah, probably say Grok is one of my favorites right now. I talk to Grok all the time.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 34:55
So we’re not talking about the football player Gronkowski.
Jason Smith: 34:59
No, we’re talking about Grok AI. ChatGPT another one and actually, believe it or not, probably the ability to be able to record notes on my phone. Like yesterday we were at a big private event at Meta in Los Angeles, and all I had to do was hit a button and now my notes are all nice and neat and I’m doing a podcast episode and all that. So that’s another.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 35:21
That’s awesome. Yeah. Do you have a certain app for that? It’s like Otter or something?
Jason Smith: 35:26
Yeah. It’s gosh, what is it called? I don’t even know what it’s called. To be honest with you.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 35:31
They need to work on their branding I guess if you can’t.
Jason Smith: 35:33
I know, right? Record It is what it is.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 35:37
Okay. On the phone?
Jason Smith: 35:38
Yeah. On my phone. Yeah. And I and it breaks down the notes, summarizes even action items and all that stuff.
It’s pretty cool. So.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 35:46
Love it. You’re. I know you got a hop soon, so feel free to stay. Or if you need to go, I’m going to get to Zach here. Zach, tell people what you do.
Company, companies whatever you want to share. And websites.
Zach Wilcox: 36:03
Yeah, a couple of companies. Been running for 5 or 6 years now. So Fide Freight, we ship oversized stuff, hemp, anything you can think of. Metal, equipment all across the country. We’re here in Michigan.
So FideFreight.com. And then on the hemp note, we do. We’re kind of revolutionizing the cannabis industry, hemp industry on how flour is sold. So we do that through a company called FrostyClub.com. So a couple companies, having fun with it.
Jason Smith: 36:43
That’s awesome.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 36:44
Zach looks young and he’s humble, but one of the most inspiring, successful, you know, really amazing entrepreneurs I know.
Zach Wilcox: 36:55
So how about that Jeremy? You’re hyping it up.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 36:59
You are your humble guy. Books. Favorite books I know you read a lot, so there may be a number of good ones here.
Zach Wilcox: 37:06
I do read. I try to read a lot. I think Good to Great was transformative for me, especially starting the business, just jumping in, trying to figure out the systems and understanding people in the organization. So, Good to Great, Jim Collins.
And when I read it when I was 17, I want to say it was like one of the first self-help personal development books, which was Positive Mental Attitude by Napoleon Hill. So it’s an old one. I think I bought the book, it was like from 19 early, very early, but it’s a really good classic book.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 37:46
It makes me think of Norton’s or something.
Jason Smith: 37:48
What’s that? Actually, yeah, from the 40s. I believe.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 37:51
Norman Vincent Peale is a good one too. I don’t know if you’ve. You’ve checked that one out. Yeah, that’s a good one also.
Zach Wilcox: 37:59
Okay.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 38:02
Any other good ones? Yeah. The Power of Positive Thinking was Norman Vincent Peale.
Zach Wilcox: 38:08
Okay, I have one here. Cribsheet. I have a four month old.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 38:12
Cause blurred background, but if you hold it to your chest, I can see it.
Zach Wilcox: 38:16
It’s called Cribsheet. It’s all about raising children. I have a four month old, so if you have a younger child or 0 to 2. Cribsheet by Emily Emily Oster. I know that’s not business, but it’s a very good book and you can take some lessons on raising a child and implement that into your business too.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 38:38
There were some health ones and Ian Garlic just joined us. Ian, I’m going to get to you next, but I thought you were gonna say something about Joe Dispenza because I know you like his stuff, but I don’t. I don’t know if that was more of a conference than a book.
Zach Wilcox: 38:51
I like Dispenza, I like The Power of Now with Eckhart Tolle. That is a wonderful book. Anything Michael Singer I wish he would release more books. So yeah, I like Eckhart Tolle, Dispenza senior. They’re all amazing.
Anything they release, I will chew that up.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 39:14
We’ll get to, and Ian I’m going to go to you next in a second with what you do, your website and then books, podcasts, and software and apps and so Zach, podcasts?
Zach Wilcox: 39:28
Podcasts, I’m into The Diary of a CEO right now Steven Bartlett. So I think he releases really good, good content. Modern Wisdom, that’s another good one. Anything, Jay Shetty I love, so I don’t I read more than I listen to podcasts, but yeah, I do catch up on those.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 39:51
And favorite apps software could be on your phone, computer, both.
Zach Wilcox: 39:58
I would say there’s a new software I’m using. It’s called AnythingLLM, so essentially we’re able to connect all of our business data with API’s, pull it all into this brain if you will, and then connect to the LLM. So like the GPT or Grok or any of those Claude. And so you get to choose which, which LLM you want and then it pulls all your data. It’s called AnythingLLM. So you can create a custom brain, and then you can share that with your team. So I won’t get too deep into it. But it’s been really useful for our company.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 40:38
Any others on your phone or computer?
Zach Wilcox: 40:45
You know.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 40:45
It could be health or business.
Zach Wilcox: 40:48
Not really. Right now I use a few. I use an app called Bend, so I stretch every morning, every night. And that’s like it’s kind of giving me some structure and how long I should be stretching for. So a little shout out to Bend the app.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 41:03
Yeah, I always skip that.
Ian Garlic: 41:05
Me too. How ironic. A chiropractor skipping, stretching.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 41:11
I know I warm up, but stretching, I just, I don’t know. I.
Zach Wilcox: 41:15
I know.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 41:16
I just want to get right into it, you know what I mean?
Zach Wilcox: 41:18
Yeah.
Ian Garlic: 41:18
Is that a myth? Like chiropractic?
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 41:21
Chiropractic? A myth in some people’s minds. But I won’t go into the story. But when I was practicing in Kentucky. But this, the line was, you can’t bullshit a dog.
You know, he someone got a just a dog got adjusted and it was limping. And then after the adjustment wasn’t limping. And then this guy was sitting in my waiting room, the wife would come in, he would never come in. And after a while he actually came to see me. And I’m like, what changed? He’s like, you can’t bullshit a dog. I’m like, I don’t know what you mean by that.
He’s like. And he told me the story, so.
Ian Garlic: 41:57
That’s great. That’s a real story.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 41:59
That’s a real story. Real story.
Ian Garlic: 42:01
It sounds like something to teach, you know?
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 42:02
It’s a real story.
Zach Wilcox: 42:05
Yeah. This is how you sell it right here.
Ian Garlic: 42:10
He has a special dog that, like, when he touches it, it stops.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 42:13
Exactly. We teach it to limp, and then it stops limping. No, I appreciate that, Zach. And again, if anyone needs to hop off, hop off. But I’m going to go to Ian.
Ian, thanks for joining. Tell people what you do, your website, and we’ll launch into it.
Ian Garlic: 42:30
I sit around, do nothing all day.
Dr. Jeremy: 42:32
Yeah I know. Besides that.
Jason Smith: 42:36
I doubt that.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 42:39
You go to Disney all day. That’s basically what you do.
Ian Garlic: 42:41
I do go to Disney a lot. I work from the lake. I also help people collect their stories and use them in videos and create awesome videos that convert their leads into clients, large clients pre-sold because no one likes to be closed.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 43:00
They like to be opened.
Ian Garlic: 43:02
They like to be open, but also they like to do all the closing themselves beforehand.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 43:06
I now when I think of people, if they say I close someone or whatever I think of, you posted something about this about don’t say closed, say open because it opens the relationship, not closes it.
Ian Garlic: 43:17
Yeah, yeah. We’re still using a 30 year, 100 year old model of selling. When the first time you encountered a product was 100 years, 100 years ago, the first time I encountered a product was when the salesman showed you it. And now we do all of our buying way beforehand and ten times more time on YouTube than any other place. So that’s why we make sure our clients are there.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 43:42
And then the website.
Ian Garlic: 43:45
And yeah, website. I mean, go look at your website stats down to like 90s a visit. And younger people don’t want to be on websites at all.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 43:55
What’s your URL so people can check it out?
Ian Garlic: 43:59
videocasestory.com, iangarlic.com, storycrews.com, go to my YouTube
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 44:05
Videocasestory.com reminds me of like Atari sort of if you check out the website. Is it okay. Yeah. Well you did a good job.
Ian Garlic: 44:12
That’s the whole 80s theme.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 44:14
Three. So first question.
Ian Garlic: 44:17
Okay.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 44:18
Is favorite books besides your own? We’ll plug yours in a second.
Ian Garlic: 44:22
But besides Video Testimonials that Land the Big Fish? I mean, the man. I read so many books, I mean, definitely How to Be Like Walt by the famous Pat Williams. Did you introduce me to Pat?
Dr. Jeremy Weis:: 44:41
Yeah.
Ian Garlic: 44:42
Yeah. Pat Williams. I got to interview him when? His last interviews at his house.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 44:47
Pat Williams Yeah, totally. Great episode. I, I watch yours And the one when I had him on it was fantastic too.
Ian Garlic: 44:54
And we talked about Walt and I mean that book about Walt. Just amazing. The Dao De Jing. I read it all the time. What else?
Recently, I’ve been listening to Meditations for Mortals by Oliver Burkeman. Listen to that a few times. Reading it too. That is a fantastic book. Anything new that I read?
I read so much. Those are some of my recent and everything Malcolm Gladwell, Malcolm Gladwell’s books I love. And just because it helps you think different. And his newest book, was it Revenge of the Tipping Point? Audiobook wise, one of the best audiobooks of all time, just because it’s so well produced too.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 45:43
Yeah, Malcolm Gladwell’s Are are fantastic. He has some other ones that have not gained as much popularity as the tipping point. I think Blink was one talking.
Ian Garlic: 45:59
Fantastic.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 45:59
Talking to Strangers, David and Goliath. I mean, I think the more popular ones, I don’t know, maybe this is just my perception. We’re outliers, The Tipping Point and Blink. But David and Goliath and Talking to Strangers were both really good too.
Ian Garlic: 46:12
Amazing. All these books are just well researched, and he’s very open to what’s going to happen. And I think it’s fantastic. And his podcast is one of my favorite podcast RevisionistHistory, besides.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 46:26
Which, which, what.
Ian Garlic: 46:28
I would say besides the Inspired Insider.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 46:30
Exactly. That gets to the next question, which is podcasts. Your favorite podcast?
Ian Garlic: 46:36
Revisionist History 100%. I listen to that a lot. I love, you know, podcasting, The Garlic Marketing Show. I try and make it different than other than content. You’d find other places.
That’s one thing I feel like podcasts often it’s like content. You find other places. I do love. What is it? Jason Bateman’s podcast.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 47:07
Oh, is that shameless? What’s it called? I’ll look it up. Yeah, he’s so good. I was thinking about him the other day.
SmartLess. Why did I think shameless? Shameless is a TV show. SmartLess. Yeah, it’s.
It’s amazing what he’s done in his career. Really? I was thinking about him the other day because I was watching.
Ian Garlic: 47:32
I watched Black Rabbit.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 47:33
Black Rabbit. Yes. And I was thinking, what was the first show he was in, like as a kid?
Ian Garlic: 47:40
What was that, silver spoons?
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 47:41
No, he was in a different one too, though.
Ian Garlic: 47:44
Silver spoons was his first one. And then he was in Facts of Life because his sister was in Facts of Life.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 47:49
What was there was another one. I can’t think of what it was, but it was family. Was he? No, he wasn’t family.
Ian Garlic: 47:58
He wasn’t a family.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 47:59
His sister was.
Ian Garlic: 48:01
His sister’s family ties?
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 48:02
Yeah.
Ian Garlic: 48:02
Their development was one of the best TV shows of all time.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 48:05
I’ve not seen it.
Ian Garlic: 48:06
Oh, my God, you gotta watch it. The last season was not good, but the first three seasons I’ve watched, we’ve watched that probably five times. The whole thing. Dodgeball is a great movie of his.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 48:20
The Hogan family. That’s the one I was thinking of.
Ian Garlic: 48:22
Oh, my God.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 48:23
You remember that?
Ian Garlic: 48:24
Yeah. He was in Little House on the Prairie.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 48:26
Little House on the Prairie. It’s your move. The Hogan.
Ian Garlic: 48:29
Night rider.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 48:30
Knight rider. Oh, my God, this is.
Ian Garlic: 48:31
What I love about AI is how close we are now to having a Knight Rider car.
Dr. Jeremy Weis: 48:36
What do you mean?
Ian Garlic: 48:37
I mean, with AI, you can completely have Kitt driving you around talking to you. I can have missiles. Missiles.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 48:47
So Jason Bateman’s podcast. What? What else?
Ian Garlic: 48:51
I mean, those are two big ones. And then I look at random episodes. Max has been binging the World War two planes. So we listen to a World War Two plane podcast. Oh yeah.
And audiobook. Band of Brothers we’re listening to right now on the way to school. And I with the girls, I would highly suggest watching. Listening. I mean, obviously there’s language in it, but if you have pre-teens, teens, and you drive them to school, I love to listen to audiobooks.
And, you know, we listened to that. And also Olive Ryan, what’s his face? Books. Who is it? Ryan.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 49:36
I don’t know those.
Ian Garlic: 49:38
Ryan. You know Ryan. Ryan on stoicism.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 49:42
Oh, Ryan. Holiday.
Ian Garlic: 49:44
Ryan. Holiday. Ryan. Holiday.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 49:47
Ego is the Enemy.
Ian Garlic: 49:49
He’s got a bunch of books. Yeah, but. Band of Brothers. Oh, my gosh, it’s just, you know, they’re 17, 18, 19. What they went through. It’s just absolutely amazing. Yeah.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 50:05
Apps and software.
Ian Garlic: 50:07
Apps. Wispr Flow.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 50:10
Chad Rubin was on and he mentioned he likes Wispr Flow also.
Ian Garlic: 50:14
And they just launched. I just got their iPhone app. I use Evernote a lot for recording when I go walking. Then I transcribed. It has much better transcription than anything out there. Plus, the thing I don’t like about all the other apps, like if you record and there’s and you’re out doing something and the internet goes out a little bit, you lose your whole recording Evernote records locally.
That’s one of my favorites. And then for my you know, everyone wants to talk AI. Claude code is super powerful. It’s super nerdy, like, it looks like an interface, like a because it is an interface. But one hack I learned from my good friend Mark, who Mark Kashef his YouTube. I’m more into YouTube shows.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 51:03
Oh what YouTube shows channels?
Ian Garlic: 51:07
Mark Kashef definitely check his out for AI super smart and Stephen Pope. I just had him on my podcast. Really smart guys. When it comes to AI, good guys to follow. Mark I think is an AI.
I’m going to meet him in person this weekend to make sure he’s not.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 51:26
It’s a real person.
Ian Garlic: 51:28
Make sure he’s a real person. Yeah, those are great AI podcasts. But as far as tools, yeah, cloud code or not, I have it in the background. It’s a backup. up.
But Evernote and and then yeah, those are my big like user apps that I use. And Duolingo always learning something.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 51:53
What about health? I know you follow some YouTube health shows you some friends in the health space too.
Ian Garlic: 51:58
Yeah, I mean, Thomas DeLauer’s great good friend of mine, business partner. We’ve done business. We’ve had a business together. He’s super smart, super good guy. And a little I’ll be it.
You know, he’s not a complete scientist. Layne Norton is a scientist. I like his stuff. As far as lifting goes, I watch what’s his face.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 52:21
Knees over toes?
Ian Garlic: 52:23
No.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 52:26
Arnold Schwarzenegger.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 52:29
He’s. His book was really good. YouTubers. You know, it’s funny because I don’t ever remember anyone’s names. The guy’s is hilarious, though.
He’s this bald guy.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 52:40
Oh, I have seen him. I’ve seen him. Yes, I know who you’re talking about.
Ian Garlic: 52:46
It’s so bad because I.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 52:47
Think I don’t know if he was a power lifter, but yeah, he brings up a lot of the science behind it and kind of.
Ian Garlic: 52:53
Yeah.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 52:54
Dispels myths about certain things.
Ian Garlic: 52:57
Yep. And then I do love comedy. So YouTube shows I do. I’ve been watching binging Please Don’t Destroy the Guys from Saturday Night Live. I love their stuff.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 53:12
Key and Peele. I like I don’t know, are they still producing like.
Ian Garlic: 53:17
No, no, they actually shout out him and his wife. You know, Michael and his wife. She’s going to kill me. They just put out a book on stand up comedy. It’s a great audiobook.
Like it was funny. I was listening to their audiobook, the podcast. They had a podcast first on audible and then became audiobook on the history of stand up and comedy. It’s fantastic. And I was listening on the way up to New York for a wedding, and I’m at the wedding venue in the Bowery and I’m like. It was they were sitting right next to me.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 54:01
That’s crazy. I saw that picture you posted.
Ian Garlic: 54:05
Yeah. And like, I was like, I was just listening to your audiobook. They’re like, oh my God. And they were so nice and sweet. And we talked for like an hour.
They’re awesome. And they’re like, do you wanna take a picture? I’m like, yeah.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 54:15
That would have been a good podcast episode.
Ian Garlic: 54:17
Yeah, I know, I should have recorded it. I mean, his stuff is awesome, I love it. I love comedy. I’m actually doing another comedy book and I’ve had a good few comedy episodes.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 54:30
I mean, the structure sometimes of comedy is similar to copywriting. You know, there’s structure to it, to the jokes and things like that.
Ian Garlic: 54:37
I’m listening to an audiobook that’s really good right now on comedy. Let me see here. You know, I listen to so many I forget what the names of the books are unless I listen to them a few times. I’m pulling it up right now. Sorry.
Comedy o AI-Driven Leader is now a great audiobook I think everyone should listen to. But anyways, what was interesting? The start of this.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 55:16
Yeah.
Ian Garlic: 55:16
Geoff Woods. Yeah. Geoff Woods. I’ll tell you about the audiobook. It’s not showing up on my list either.
Here. That’s weird. Johnny I love his books too. All it takes is a goal. His books are really fantastic, But the book on comedy, it was really interesting.
It’s like, you know, you can get a somewhat someone the first time, a drama writer, first time anything writer they can get, they can hit it well. But comedy, there’s no such thing as like a good first time comedy writer. And it’s true, writing comedy is one of the hardest things out there. Yeah, that’s what I love about it is because it’s like. It’s like us.
You’ve got comedians have to test everything over and over and over again.
Dr. Jeremy Weisz: 56:06
Yeah, I love it. Ian, thanks for sharing. I love it. Always learn something.
Ian Garlic: 56:13
My pleasure.
