Jeremy Weisz 20:05
So what’s the process look like? Someone and I’m looking, if you’re just listening to the audio, there is a video component. We’re on the Lionsgate.Network website, you can see, you know, there’s a bunch of examples. I mean, there’s scenarios – there’s romance scams, cryptocurrency, scam, stock trading scams, we’re looking at this one where he’s like, I got my pension funds that I deposited in crypto exchange that disappeared and that was helped. So what’s the process look like? Someone obviously gets something stolen from them. What do they do? How does it work with you?
Bezalel Raviv 20:45
Well, some of them go straight to the authorities. And the authorities say fill up a form and we’ll call you whenever because they don’t have the manpower to exercise. Like I said, no keys, no doors, all keys all doors. And the authorities have not adjusted to new doors yet. So they file a report and that’s that’s it? In 99%, it ends there, unless it’s a form for a $400 million case. Right. So then the Bureau comes in. But if it’s like $4 million, I mean, come on, you know, make another four. Right? You know, if you’ve made four, make another four. And then they basically search, they go on Google, and Google is based on intent, right? And they search, and they find a lot of scam recovery services. So oh, boy, they go from this to that terrible. 25% of our clients, in some months, 50% of our clients have been terrorized. That is the word with fake recovery services. Okay. If they’re lucky, they come to us and we are fully transparent, just like we are on video now. Each and every client is entitled for a face to face conference. First of all, here we are, this is who we are, like it or not. Our company’s transparent address is transparent company’s registration, numbers, transfer, everything is transparent.
Tell us what is your problem? First of all, sit down and tell us what your problem is, we’ll find out if we can help you. And that is basically at our expense. Why? Because if it’s something that we are not aware of, you’re educating us really. If it’s something we are aware of, then we can tell you what we’re going to do, based on a report that we will provide to you before you do anything. You see the report, and the report will give you the indication where your money is in this red hot minute. In 95% of the time, there are cases where funds are very tricky to locate, okay. But this is the minority of most cases. To encourage these people we will tell them what we know.
First of all, hackers and black hat people are very cumbersome. They make a lot of mistakes, even the good ones. They’re making themselves familiar without knowing they’re actually familiar. So when we step in the occasion, we kind of you know, we say that because a lot of people Jeremy thinks that it’s not possible to recover funds and crypto, they have a story told to them back in medieval times that it’s not possible to recover crypto and we’re like, what are you talking about? Crypto is the easiest to locate. Why? Because every transaction is hooked on the transaction before and hooked to the transaction after. It’s a blockchain. All the blocks are together. Now if we are able to indicate the first block, obviously we can indicate the last one. So I’m like they don’t like what they think. I don’t know who gave them that information.
But a lot of people have that notion that they’re not only on the front stage with you know, the lights on the spot are on them, but also the music is playing. Okay, referencing back to Halleluiah. It’s a concert for us, we see the performer. Okay, now we just need to figure out their full identity. That is the second. Because we start with blockchain analysis, and then we move to cyber intelligence. That is the critical element that most companies are not even providing in sync with blockchain and not analysis. And we do, we basically say, okay, this person’s name is this and that. Okay. And then fraud AML is the last stop of that train saying, why don’t you give this client of ours his money back or her money back and we’ll end it for today? If not, sometimes they resist. There is a list of sanctions that is available to use with authorities, of course, and what can you do with $4 million behind the bars? Not so much. And so they want to just, they just want to, okay, they just want to close, close and go. So it’s logic, it’s simple logic. And it’s exercise each and every time with each and every case.
Jeremy Weisz 26:09
Who should be contacting you? Like you mentioned, your friend, who then you know, you’re talking with the people at Microsoft, that person just happened to know you. Who else should be contacting you?
Bezalel Raviv 26:21
So basically, we have the B2C, B2B and B2G, right? That’s all we have. God has not given us more B2 something. So only three. We can’t work outside the realm of B2C, B2B and B2G. So B2C we’re already doing on a daily basis, people contacting us directly. They don’t need anyone for that, no middlemen, peer to peer. And then there is obviously the B2B, which we have not been introduced to, but they are great friends of ours, yet to be introduced, because they are the wallets and the exchanges that represent funds, and custodians for a lot of people’s money, and these people have history. Right. So that will be the next logical step as soon as we finalize the PR campaign that we started with the publication of the Lionsgate Network Hamas, Ministry of Defense.
So yeah, so and B2G is obviously we’ve done it with Israel, we’ve done it pro bono, of course. There’s no contract there, there was just a need, and we jumped on the carriage. And we worked the horses forward, because we want it to get those bastards, we want it to reveal them. And we want it to say, if we can help it, you’re not getting that money. That money should be going to the same families you terrorized. And for us, it’s an act of Balaam, Balaam from the Bible. If you remember him, he wanted to curse and he came out with a blessing. So all these people from Europe who supported Hamas really supported the rebuilding of the sovereign city that got affected and the kibbutz that got affected through this event.
Jeremy Weisz 28:33
In the B2G realm, what position is a lot of governments obviously all over the world, they don’t want things funded, you know, terror organizations. Is there a position at that at the government that should make you know, we should be contacting Lionsgate and exploring this further for their own country? If someone from the government or someone is listening to this, right? And they’re like, Well, this is not my department, whose department is it? Or what position should be contacting you?
Bezalel Raviv 29:06
So it’s finance or treasury or law? Right. They work with each other, right? Like in Israel it is the Ministry of Defense, Ministry of Finance, the Treasury and the Ministry of, you know, of law. How do you say the Ministry of Law? Yeah, that’s it. Okay. Yeah. So that the conversation I mean, really, just like we have three departments, so blockchain analysis, cyber intelligence and email fraud, they have to work with each other to finalize the case. In order to finalize the case with the government, you need the support of more than one person. It has to go from one to the other to the next and then a conclusion.
Jeremy Weisz 30:03
Another use case. I mean, there’s a lot of use cases in scenarios that you get. And I don’t know how common it is. But when I was on your website, I saw Netflix specials, scams, romance scams, specifically. What does that look like?
Bezalel Raviv 30:17
Very painful to those who have undergone it. Romance scams also known as the pig butchering scam. It’s called that, because the person who’s spiked writes to the wrong person is being filled and fed with compliments until they are butchered when money is transacted. Tinder is the most notorious platform to not be responsible, or hold any responsibilities for those actions. I’m not sure if they’re responsible, but the more cases we get, that are titled, it’s how we call it romantic scams. Because we still want to encourage people to fall in love and be romantic, right? So in the realm of romantic scam, we’ve noticed a lot of Americans that are engaging with citizens of Eastern countries. Okay. And in the beginning, we thought, you know, it’s just, you know, based on financial profits, right?
Using a camera and good communication levels. And then, we saw more and more attackers, or online terrorists that are from countries that are in dispute, or not in harmony with the US. And I was thinking this is very interesting, super unfortunate for the people, our clients, but interesting that you wouldn’t see Americans that are attacking other Americans in the romantic scam. So one thing that is important to point out, you would think that those that are being scammed, the victims, or the subjects are not so smart, right? How could you send $500,000 to someone you met online, and never met with them face to face? The truth of the matter is that if you don’t understand it, imagine how good and trained that other person is. And they’re super trained. They understand how to manipulate and maneuver in ways that are of high intelligence. Okay. And unfortunately, the numbers that we’ve come across, and we assess are around the $5 billion in the US alone only from that specific category. But since we’ve been solving those cases, we can say that the person attacking did not say the last word. And that’s a good thing is it was reversible. And it is reversible in most cases, not in all cases. It’s per case, everything that we do is per case.
Jeremy Weisz 33:56
In these situations, do they have actual fake profiles? Or are they an actual person behind it? When they’re communicating obviously, they’re online, they’re probably seeing pictures, maybe videos, I don’t know. Are they using a fake profile? Or what do you see? What does that interaction look like from the persona?
Bezalel Raviv 34:19
So first of all, they don’t neglect any of the sexes. You have men attacking women, you have women attacking men, you have men attacking men, women attacking women, okay? So they’re not biased. They go with whatever they can. On different websites by the way. Tinder is not is not a unique space for that specific scam. So they have incredible profiles, very good pictures, showing some skin. That’s what we’ve witnessed. They will lure you in a conversation and then lure you in a video conference, but in the video conference, you will see a silhouette, you wouldn’t see, like, presentation in full light, okay. So your mind will be running that you saw that person. That person exists, but really what you saw is a smoke in the mirror. You might as well, you know, flame a sage in the house, and you would say that you saw that person.
So that’s the case, it’s copy paste for all cases, almost. In the good cases, it’s copy and paste. And they also will reveal their passports. Sometimes before they introduce to you that amazing financial scam for you to make a lot of money through with a couple of my girls, as they would say. The luring is social, not financial. There is a financial, you know, pillar to it, but it’s social. It’s like coming out of a drink with us. Where it’ll cost you $400,000. So, yeah, that’s from what we’ve analyzed so far. And I think we only picked and pinch that specific area. It’s far bigger than what we think we know. In my understanding.
Jeremy Weisz 36:27
Yeah, I don’t know if you saw it there was a full like a Netflix special about I forgot what they called it. There was a guy on Tinder who was scamming women. So I think you probably have a bunch of storylines for another Netflix special. It sounds like it.
Bezalel Raviv 36:44
I think that if anyone is watching this, this would be B2E. B2E is business to entertainment. Here is the E. If someone from Netflix is watching, we have the story, we have the script for you. Contact us because the stories that we come across as people open their hearts to us, they trust us with their story are incredible every time. Some of them are repetitive. But most of them are, like I said, unique cases that you couldn’t write for Hollywood, really.
Jeremy Weisz 37:25
Yeah. I have one last question. And just just thanks for sharing your journey, your story in Lionsgate. And if someone out there knows someone that can be helped contact Lionsgate, go to their website, Lionsgate.Network to learn more. You know, when I was doing my research about you, I saw all this stuff about prolific musicians. So when you look back over your music career, what’s one of the favorite moments or concerts that you had in the music world?
Bezalel Raviv 38:07
New York City always, yeah. New York City in a club called Spa. There was an Israeli promoter who was a friend of mine today, and it was the best club in the Big Apple. And I remember that specific concert as really like, I felt on stage. And it was an incredible experience. And it doesn’t matter what I do in life. I believe in music, and I believe in God. And I believe that music is a high energy instrument that can activate, you know, great cells in the brain because some of them are not so good. And I feel that wherever I go, it doesn’t matter what I do, I understand the power of music and how it can influence people to its technology really. Just like blockchain music is technology. You can do amazing things with it and encourage people to live their life and you can discourage people with it and you know, to do other things, so yeah. Jeremy, thank you so much.
Jeremy Weisz 39:37
Thank you for sharing your story. Everyone check out Lionsgate.Network. Thanks everyone.
Bezalel Raviv 39:41
That’s it! Thank you. Thank you.
